Steve Harris interviews Samantha Samways with Down Syndrome and her mum Sandra, about her hobbies and aspirations and subsequently talks to Erika Petrie about how Shades of Different came about and their plans once it has become a charity, as well as their big charity fundraising CD.

To listen to the podcast on BBC, click the link below.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/p0bwm5xy